What is a staircase?


It is a tool, a path, a form, a functional, an aesthetic and even a symbolic piece. For me staircases are the most interesting way of combining two points in space. I created these staircases so that they could move from space to space, unattached to a wall structure.


Does it matter if we go up or down or if it leads nowhere?

It doesn’t matter. The piece is free and lets you explore its surroundings. It works with people looking at it, reflected by it, moving it, sitting on it, walking on it...


Have steps been a long term theme for you?

The ladder was the first piece I created to free myself from furniture making. Generally, in every piece of furniture I make there is something inside it that goes beyond a furniture piece. So my work can’t be categorized as art or furniture, it is either both or it is in between.


How do you create a piece?

If I create a chair for instance, which is easy to access by every one, I will change its classic shape, I will add details and feeling to it so that it is closer to a sculpture than to a chair.


How do you feel about ready-made artists who exhibited a daily object, freeing it from its functionality?

I think I am in continuity with it without really realizing it. I dislike the categorization between art and furniture as I feel that I am in-between categories. I like to think of my work as rhizomatic, in the sense that it bursts from an underground net of lines until it creates a shape. And these shapes are constantly evolving into new work, so that I don’t know myself where is it exactly heading to.


How do you feel about your work being exhibited in public spaces?

I want to put my pieces in public spaces. I don’t create pieces in order to decorate houses. You may decorate your house with them, but for me it is much more powerful if it is public. To me it is extremely interesting to work not only with the space where the piece is exhibited but with the people that will interact with it. People passing by, who aren’t paying attention to art, will or will not have a connection with it, and this is what makes public space so powerful.


What would be your ideal work?

I would like to create something with nothing. There would be no work, but there would be feelings.


You want to create immateriality? But you work with materials!

I know! I still need to understand how to do this. That is why it is so important that my work should be shown in public spaces. Let’s say I am heading towards spatial sculptures. But I still need to figure that one out!






interview by Elisabeth Felson / maastricht 2018